Comments on: Project Space is the REASON for GTD (not an exception to it) http://www.gtdtimes.com/2008/04/17/project-space-is-the-reason-for-gtd-not-an-exception-to-it/ The Hub for All Things GTD Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:27:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Destry http://www.gtdtimes.com/2008/04/17/project-space-is-the-reason-for-gtd-not-an-exception-to-it/comment-page-1/#comment-34337 Destry Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:43:28 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/2008/04/17/project-space-is-the-reason-for-gtd-not-an-exception-to-it/#comment-34337 At last some rtaoinliaty in our little debate. At last some rtaoinliaty in our little debate.

]]> By: Dustin http://www.gtdtimes.com/2008/04/17/project-space-is-the-reason-for-gtd-not-an-exception-to-it/comment-page-1/#comment-142 Dustin Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:24:25 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/2008/04/17/project-space-is-the-reason-for-gtd-not-an-exception-to-it/#comment-142 To be honest, I totally agree with you, with one big "but" -- but Allen seems to have gone out of his way to hide the part about actually *doing* stuff. Yes, there's a lot of talk about "mind like water" and I think if you listen to him talk about "next actions", he hints at the idea that a ext action is just a trigger -- that you do the next action from your list, and then the next and the next and the next without needing any sort of plan. Like I said, though, that's only hinted at; the number one complaint about GTD (maybe #2, after "I can't seem to get to the weekly review") is that aside from those 2-minute "do it now" tasks, there doesn't seem to be any guidance on doing things. My goal was simply to try to fill that space in, at least a little. All that said, I'm comfortable with being off-base here. Like a lot of people -- like Allen himself, it seems sometimes -- I'm just trying to work all this GTD stuff out. If I missed a bit, that's fine; I appreciate your taking the time to point it out. --Dustin To be honest, I totally agree with you, with one big “but” — but Allen seems to have gone out of his way to hide the part about actually *doing* stuff. Yes, there’s a lot of talk about “mind like water” and I think if you listen to him talk about “next actions”, he hints at the idea that a ext action is just a trigger — that you do the next action from your list, and then the next and the next and the next without needing any sort of plan.

Like I said, though, that’s only hinted at; the number one complaint about GTD (maybe #2, after “I can’t seem to get to the weekly review”) is that aside from those 2-minute “do it now” tasks, there doesn’t seem to be any guidance on doing things. My goal was simply to try to fill that space in, at least a little.

All that said, I’m comfortable with being off-base here. Like a lot of people — like Allen himself, it seems sometimes — I’m just trying to work all this GTD stuff out. If I missed a bit, that’s fine; I appreciate your taking the time to point it out.

–Dustin

]]> By: Andrew M Whaley http://www.gtdtimes.com/2008/04/17/project-space-is-the-reason-for-gtd-not-an-exception-to-it/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Andrew M Whaley Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:57:28 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/2008/04/17/project-space-is-the-reason-for-gtd-not-an-exception-to-it/#comment-138 I agree with the writer of the original article that the moment of flow is the end of GTD, but I would simply argue for an older more true meaning of the word "end." An "end" in the classic sense is a "that for the sake of which" something exists or in Greek a "telos." The enemy of the mythic and much sought after "flow" is the "might/would/could/should/oughta" floating in the background while you try to be blissful and at one with your doing. You will never be able to achieve that blissful moment of "flow" if you have psychic ram crammed to capacity. To do in that way in which the doing becomes or approaches being, in which the edges of climber, rock, and the art of climbing begin to blur a little, as it were, you better have an empty head. Heck, beyond making it possible to do "flow," David would defend GTD's existence for the sake of being clear when doing nothing- with abandon! I agree with the writer of the original article that the moment of flow is the end of GTD, but I would simply argue for an older more true meaning of the word “end.” An “end” in the classic sense is a “that for the sake of which” something exists or in Greek a “telos.” The enemy of the mythic and much sought after “flow” is the “might/would/could/should/oughta” floating in the background while you try to be blissful and at one with your doing. You will never be able to achieve that blissful moment of “flow” if you have psychic ram crammed to capacity. To do in that way in which the doing becomes or approaches being, in which the edges of climber, rock, and the art of climbing begin to blur a little, as it were, you better have an empty head. Heck, beyond making it possible to do “flow,” David would defend GTD’s existence for the sake of being clear when doing nothing- with abandon!

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